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lhawana
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Largest Crib Recall...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_crib_recall


The cribs are by Stork Craft sometimes with the Fisher Price logo. Recalled cribs go back as far as 1993.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject:

Crazy. Sad that children have to die before the CPSC will do anything.

1. they should stop making cribs with drop side rails.

2. they should also stop making mattress support with wood or metal "rail" type style. They should be a solid THICK piece of wood.

3. there should be stricter crib laws to help keep our babies safe.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject:

I may be stupid but what other kind of crib is there besides drop side? Both my kids had a drop side crib, Ive never seen one different.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject:

dreemedayze wrote:
Crazy. Sad that children have to die before the CPSC will do anything.

1. they should stop making cribs with drop side rails.

2. they should also stop making mattress support with wood or metal "rail" type style. They should be a solid THICK piece of wood.

3. there should be stricter crib laws to help keep our babies safe.


I guess I'm not sure what exactly is the problem with drop rails Embarassed Can you explain a little bit?
I have one like that and it seems to be fine although it's not Stork brand because when I was looking for a crib I did a little research and Stork brand was one with the lowest approval
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject:

Because stork brand isn't the only one with recalls to the drop side rail. There has been Jardine, Simplicity and Graco... to name a few.

The problem is that they aren't manufacturing them to be safe. The sides can slip off and strangle babies. Simplicity had a massive recall when their drop side could be installed upside down. They didn't make it very clear on which way the rail was to be attached so thousands of people had installed them incorrectly. I believe 9 babies died. I guess in the whole realm of things 9 isn't much but it's still 9 too many.

They make drop sides that are stationary. As in they don't drop down. We bought one like that for River after Ambree's crib was recalled. In the past four years we've had two cribs that have been recalled that we owned.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:07 pm    Post subject:

CrazyCouponJulka wrote:
dreemedayze wrote:
Crazy. Sad that children have to die before the CPSC will do anything.

1. they should stop making cribs with drop side rails.

2. they should also stop making mattress support with wood or metal "rail" type style. They should be a solid THICK piece of wood.

3. there should be stricter crib laws to help keep our babies safe.


I guess I'm not sure what exactly is the problem with drop rails Embarassed Can you explain a little bit?
I have one like that and it seems to be fine although it's not Stork brand because when I was looking for a crib I did a little research and Stork brand was one with the lowest approval


On my crib which was recalled, there is a track that the rail would slide down. On some of the cribs, the track would break or come loose. If the baby rolled, they could become lodged between the rail and the mattress, causing suffocation. If you google Simplicity Crib Recall, I believe there are diagrams. It's pretty scarey.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject:

Any time I read/hear about a crib recall, it makes me so sad to think of any babies that were hurt or killed by a defective crib. Sad It makes me angry too that it takes the manufactures so long to act. And there are so many people out there that don't register their purchases and don't read/watch the news so they might not even know about this recall. Confused

If anyone is in the market for a crib, I highly recommend looking into Pali baby furniture. Here's their website:
http://www.pali-design.com/index.php?path=home&template=home&section=home&subsection=home&page=home

These cribs are manufactured in Italy and are very well know in Europe and have very high standards. Cribs range in price from about 400.00 - 800.00 but they are well worth the money. I have one myself and have known several friends/family members with Pali cribs and they have gone through 3, 4, even 5 children with the same crib. Several of their cribs also convert into toddler/full size beds later on if that's something you're interested in.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject:

dreemedayze wrote:
Because stork brand isn't the only one with recalls to the drop side rail. There has been Jardine, Simplicity and Graco... to name a few.

The problem is that they aren't manufacturing them to be safe. The sides can slip off and strangle babies. Simplicity had a massive recall when their drop side could be installed upside down. They didn't make it very clear on which way the rail was to be attached so thousands of people had installed them incorrectly. I believe 9 babies died. I guess in the whole realm of things 9 isn't much but it's still 9 too many.

They make drop sides that are stationary. As in they don't drop down. We bought one like that for River after Ambree's crib was recalled. In the past four years we've had two cribs that have been recalled that we owned.


We had one of the cribs and they sent us some "kit" to diagram which side faces to the front and it made it stationary so the drop side wouldnt work...I think they also had issues with the plastic breaking, so the new pieces were metal...I sware looking at it I would have never thought it was dangerous Confused I dont know what I would have done to find my child dead in whats suppose to be one of the most used, safe places for an infant....

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject:

Thank you for the heads up on this! I'm pretty sure I have one that was involved in this recall. (Baby is napping in it right now, so I can't check.)

I'm not sure what their remedy should be, but sending a little kit to 'fix' it makes me nervous. Not sure why, just souds like someone trying to fix a problem with duct tape if you ask me.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject:

Kristen M wrote:
Thank you for the heads up on this! I'm pretty sure I have one that was involved in this recall. (Baby is napping in it right now, so I can't check.)

I'm not sure what their remedy should be, but sending a little kit to 'fix' it makes me nervous. Not sure why, just souds like someone trying to fix a problem with duct tape if you ask me.


After the Simplicity recall this year, Target and BRU refunded the money in full because Simplicity went out of business (go figure). I thought it was a great gesture. I got a full refund in the form of a gift card - no receipt required - 5 years later.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject:

Simplicity probably closed because they went brankrupt from the BILLIONS of dollars they lost in lawsuits. You should Google it sometime, quite interesting.

Graco and Simplicity are partner companies. I refuse to ever purchase a crib by either of these nitwits.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:38 pm    Post subject:

newmom020105 wrote:
Kristen M wrote:
Thank you for the heads up on this! I'm pretty sure I have one that was involved in this recall. (Baby is napping in it right now, so I can't check.)

I'm not sure what their remedy should be, but sending a little kit to 'fix' it makes me nervous. Not sure why, just souds like someone trying to fix a problem with duct tape if you ask me.


After the Simplicity recall this year, Target and BRU refunded the money in full because Simplicity went out of business (go figure). I thought it was a great gesture. I got a full refund in the form of a gift card - no receipt required - 5 years later.


Well, I guess I wouldn't expect a refund, but I'm frustrated with the fact that this is my 3rd (and last) baby...he's 19 months. It's the crib we used with all 3 children, and here we are nearly ready to transition to a toddler bed and NOW there's a problem? Grrrrr. Any one of my kids could have been affected by this. Shocked
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject:

You search high and low until you find the number to the manufacturuer. Then you call them and tell them a "kit" won't do. That your childs safety is a hell of a lot more important. That if they don't send you a refund check and a box to send the crib back in (at no cost to you), you will be walking it to their front doors and embedding it in the windows. Wink
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject:

Are you talking about rails that the whole rail (GIANT side) moves up and down? or that part (ie the top 3") folds down?

See, for some of us (like me) who are pretty short, it's really hard to get a baby in and out of a crib with completely stationary sides. Next to impossible say after a C-Section when you can't use a stool or reach over!

I have a crib now for Caleb (DS#3 who is 2.5yrs old) that has 4 completely stationary sides. Unfortunately, I have had to have my 10 yr old almost climb INTO the crib to help me get him out when he was having a siezure because I simply could not reach him.


I'm not saying that faulty cribs should be left on the market, just that they should come up with a SAFE design for us short people who have kids! Laughing
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:49 pm    Post subject:

Sarah's crib was a Simplicity and I took it back to Wal-Mart this summer and got a full refund in cash. Even though I had no reciept and I had purchased it at a Wal-Mart in Iowa and returned it in FL.

Maybe Wal-mart will take these cribs back too...?? you can always call the manager of your walmart and see what he/she says
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject:

Kristen M wrote:
newmom020105 wrote:
Kristen M wrote:
Thank you for the heads up on this! I'm pretty sure I have one that was involved in this recall. (Baby is napping in it right now, so I can't check.)

I'm not sure what their remedy should be, but sending a little kit to 'fix' it makes me nervous. Not sure why, just souds like someone trying to fix a problem with duct tape if you ask me.


After the Simplicity recall this year, Target and BRU refunded the money in full because Simplicity went out of business (go figure). I thought it was a great gesture. I got a full refund in the form of a gift card - no receipt required - 5 years later.


Well, I guess I wouldn't expect a refund, but I'm frustrated with the fact that this is my 3rd (and last) baby...he's 19 months. It's the crib we used with all 3 children, and here we are nearly ready to transition to a toddler bed and NOW there's a problem? Grrrrr. Any one of my kids could have been affected by this. Shocked


You sure can expect a refund. I was in the exact same situation - went through two recalls with the crib and when it was finally deemed scrap, my youngest was 19 months old. ETA - the fix they are sending out converts the crib from a drop down side to a fixed side. This is not what you paid for.

It is evident by the Simplicity recall that the fixes they sent out did not work. I would use this angle.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject:

If the issue is the plastic breaking I would think metal would do the trick? (although different beds have had different issues) I never knew there was an option to return it, we called and they sent us the kit a long while back...Im glad Im DONE having kids...The bed is set up as a toddler bed right now so the side in question isnt even on the bed anymore...So we can still return these things and the company is bankrupt? Who's paying for that???
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject:

I didn't even know about the second Simplicity recall... I heard of the first but we weren't in that one. We were in the second. We called WM tonight and they said they're still honoring it... we'll see when we show up. We don't have the drawer on wheels that went under it anymore though. I actually threw it out and never used it. So, they may not take it back.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject:

lovelyenchanted wrote:
I didn't even know about the second Simplicity recall... I heard of the first but we weren't in that one. We were in the second. We called WM tonight and they said they're still honoring it... we'll see when we show up. We don't have the drawer on wheels that went under it anymore though. I actually threw it out and never used it. So, they may not take it back.


Are ALL Simplicity cribs recalled?
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject:

uaught2nvme wrote:
lovelyenchanted wrote:
I didn't even know about the second Simplicity recall... I heard of the first but we weren't in that one. We were in the second. We called WM tonight and they said they're still honoring it... we'll see when we show up. We don't have the drawer on wheels that went under it anymore though. I actually threw it out and never used it. So, they may not take it back.


Are ALL Simplicity cribs recalled?


I think all Simplicity cribs with drop side rails...

http://www.simplicityforchildren.com/ourproducts/notice_dropside/index.htm
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject:

From the CPSC website:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09260.html


Description: This recall involves all drop side cribs with a different or “newer” style of plastic hardware from those cribs recalled in September 2007. This newer style of Simplicity hardware can be identified by a flexible plastic tab at the top of the lower tracks. The recalled model numbers include but may not be limited to: 8050, 8325, 8620, 8745, 8748, 8755, 8756, 8765, 8778, 8810, and 8994, 8995, 8996.

Sold at: Department stores, children’s stores, and mass merchandisers nationwide from January 2005 through June 2009 for between $150 and $300.

Manufactured in: China

Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled cribs and find an alternative, safe sleeping environment for their baby. Consumers should immediately return the crib to the place of purchase for a refund, replacement or store credit.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject:

In a way I am glad I bought the twins cribs from Kmart. They were only $120 each and we haven't had any problems with recalls, defects, etc.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject:

Ok So here is a stupid question. I am apparently a horrible mother. Thanks to one of the links on here I just found out that the July recall included our crib. Embarassed We bought it at Target. I called and they said bring it in and they would take care of me. Well how is this going to work since I have no receipt and don't have the extra right now to make up the difference of the crib price to get a new one?
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject:

So what brands are safe to buy? I have to get one today when I take DD's back. I know Graco, Storkcraft and apparently Delta have had recalls.

So that leaves DaVinci, Geneva, Charleston and Childcraft.
Please help.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject:

kayeleesmom wrote:
Ok So here is a stupid question. I am apparently a horrible mother. Thanks to one of the links on here I just found out that the July recall included our crib. Embarassed We bought it at Target. I called and they said bring it in and they would take care of me. Well how is this going to work since I have no receipt and don't have the extra right now to make up the difference of the crib price to get a new one?


When I returned Sarah's crib, it had the crib, changing table and dresser. We threw out the dresser because it broke after a few months. When I went to return it at Wal-Mart, they knew it was the "nursery-in-a-box" set. It took a while (about 30 min) but they dug up the old UPC code for the set and returned it in the computer. I told them I still had the changing table and threw out the dresser. The manager said we can keep the changing table and he returned all the money for the whole set. HTH!
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:44 pm    Post subject:

kayeleesmom wrote:
Ok So here is a stupid question. I am apparently a horrible mother. Thanks to one of the links on here I just found out that the July recall included our crib. Embarassed We bought it at Target. I called and they said bring it in and they would take care of me. Well how is this going to work since I have no receipt and don't have the extra right now to make up the difference of the crib price to get a new one?



No receipt or proof of purchase is necessary. Just take the printout showing the crib recall. Go to http://www.target.com/b/ref=br_bx_1/190-5922245-5795147?ie=UTF8&node=681345011
and you will see the recall notice. I called target customer service to find out hte DPCI or ASIN number - which I guess is there internal number to find out what your reimbursement is. I got the customer service person's name and information and took it to the store. They gave me a little teeny problem but the manager solved it immediately. I did not bring the drawer in because it was a piece of crap.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject:

newmom020105 wrote:
kayeleesmom wrote:
Ok So here is a stupid question. I am apparently a horrible mother. Thanks to one of the links on here I just found out that the July recall included our crib. Embarassed We bought it at Target. I called and they said bring it in and they would take care of me. Well how is this going to work since I have no receipt and don't have the extra right now to make up the difference of the crib price to get a new one?



No receipt or proof of purchase is necessary. Just take the printout showing the crib recall. Go to http://www.target.com/b/ref=br_bx_1/190-5922245-5795147?ie=UTF8&node=681345011
and you will see the recall notice. I called target customer service to find out hte DPCI or ASIN number - which I guess is there internal number to find out what your reimbursement is. I got the customer service person's name and information and took it to the store. They gave me a little teeny problem but the manager solved it immediately. I did not bring the drawer in because it was a piece of crap.


Did you have to take the toddler bed side parts in? Wondering if I have to go dig those out. Glad you didn't have to have the drawer for a complete refund. We use it. It is not the best but it works. I spoke to the manager this morning and wrote down his name and everything.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject:

I have a Graco drop side crib and I can't find anything on it. I can't even find it on Walmart.com or gracobaby.com but I want to return it if its part of a recall but I need help Laughing
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject:

kayeleesmom wrote:
newmom020105 wrote:
kayeleesmom wrote:
Ok So here is a stupid question. I am apparently a horrible mother. Thanks to one of the links on here I just found out that the July recall included our crib. Embarassed We bought it at Target. I called and they said bring it in and they would take care of me. Well how is this going to work since I have no receipt and don't have the extra right now to make up the difference of the crib price to get a new one?



No receipt or proof of purchase is necessary. Just take the printout showing the crib recall. Go to http://www.target.com/b/ref=br_bx_1/190-5922245-5795147?ie=UTF8&node=681345011
and you will see the recall notice. I called target customer service to find out hte DPCI or ASIN number - which I guess is there internal number to find out what your reimbursement is. I got the customer service person's name and information and took it to the store. They gave me a little teeny problem but the manager solved it immediately. I did not bring the drawer in because it was a piece of crap.


Did you have to take the toddler bed side parts in? Wondering if I have to go dig those out. Glad you didn't have to have the drawer for a complete refund. We use it. It is not the best but it works. I spoke to the manager this morning and wrote down his name and everything.


I'll be honest, I forgot to bring the bag with the nuts and bolts and such and they did not even notice. I doubt the store would even notice if someof the parts were missing.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject:

iluvmykids2004 wrote:
I have a Graco drop side crib and I can't find anything on it. I can't even find it on Walmart.com or gracobaby.com but I want to return it if its part of a recall but I need help Laughing


There should be a model number - probably four digits. On mine, it was on a little plate on the top of one of the sides. My model number was 8750. You can also find the model number on the paperwork - like the bag that contains all of the parts.
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